surrealestate
Nov 14, 01:30 AM
Anyone complaining about Apple's app approval process has clearly not developed for other mobile devices for the US Carriers. Even with its faults, the App Store is a walk in the park compared to Sprint, AT&T, T-Mobile, or Verizon.
1) All US carriers are very restrictive about what new apps and games they will carry. Even big companies like WB and Disney have had major apps and games turned down. The carrier decks have limited space.
2) The signing/DRM and uploading process for all carriers can be very arcane, with unclear procedures, long delays for hearing back about the status of content, etc.
3) US Carriers require an extensive amount of testing on all builds that they are going to sell. Most of the phones on Verizon, for example, require going through the BREW development process, which entails getting the game build for each handset tested by NSTL, at a cost of $700-1000 per build. Verizon does further testing after that, and neither BREW or Verizon offer a full test bed for network features.
4) European carriers don't do their own testing -- they simply don't guarantee that games and apps will work. As a result, there is a large amount of piracy for apps in the European market, and because devices often aren't tied to a specific carrier/carrier storefront, it's often easier to find the games you want on the pirate sites than it is to buy them.
5)US mobile carriers have very strict content guidelines for most mobile content, including ringtones and graphics. Each carrier has a different content management partner and infrastructure with different procedures.
6)If you plan to submit your game to a US mobile carrier, each carrier will have a list of phones you are required to support, usually about 40 of their better sellers. While this generally includes modern top-of-the-line phones, it also will include some really horrible 4 year old handsets with no features. This has been a big reason for the lack of innovation on the carriers -- it's hard to launch a great new location-aware app if you are required to run it on phones without a GPS, and you can't easily launch a 3D game, since only about 6 or 7 phones will run it, and the other required phones won't.
7)Apple's process puts the onus on the developer to properly test their app, with a minimum of testing on Apple's side. A full test from Apple would cost money, probably hundreds of dollars, and would pretty much eliminate the ability to offer 99 cent apps or free apps. The penalty you pay for insufficient testing is that it may take 3 weeks to get your bug fixes live on the store. Inconvenient, but poetic justice.
8) The Danger Sidekick app store was a real nightmare. Danger prides itself on the fact that nobody submitting an app can get it approved in less than 3 passes. Most of the reasons they turn down apps have to do with how underpowered and buggy the Danger hardware is. Furthermore, in order to sell anything on that store, you have to cut a deal with Danger as well as the carrier offering the device.
So, all said, the reason mobile developers are so excited about iPhone is that for all its faults, the App Store is a breath of fresh air compared to most carrier marketplaces. It's substantially less restrictive than phone carriers or any of the console manufacturers, the cost to get in is minimal, and the process is quite a bit more transparent.
While the process is not perfect, much of the problems people are having are probably attributable to the sheer volume of submissions every week. They are processing thousands of apps during every 40-hour week with a finite staff; the figure I've heard is that the average app gets 6 minutes of review time, which certainly would account for the few flubs they've made.
Considering the hoops Facebook has probably had to jump through for every other phone they support, Hewett just sounds like a whiner. And a web-based Facebook mobile client is even more of a hassle, take it from someone who had to ensure that a major entertainment company's mobile site worked properly on over 500 handsets. If facebook wants to be everywhere, they will pay a price, and the price on the App Store is pretty reasonable.
1) All US carriers are very restrictive about what new apps and games they will carry. Even big companies like WB and Disney have had major apps and games turned down. The carrier decks have limited space.
2) The signing/DRM and uploading process for all carriers can be very arcane, with unclear procedures, long delays for hearing back about the status of content, etc.
3) US Carriers require an extensive amount of testing on all builds that they are going to sell. Most of the phones on Verizon, for example, require going through the BREW development process, which entails getting the game build for each handset tested by NSTL, at a cost of $700-1000 per build. Verizon does further testing after that, and neither BREW or Verizon offer a full test bed for network features.
4) European carriers don't do their own testing -- they simply don't guarantee that games and apps will work. As a result, there is a large amount of piracy for apps in the European market, and because devices often aren't tied to a specific carrier/carrier storefront, it's often easier to find the games you want on the pirate sites than it is to buy them.
5)US mobile carriers have very strict content guidelines for most mobile content, including ringtones and graphics. Each carrier has a different content management partner and infrastructure with different procedures.
6)If you plan to submit your game to a US mobile carrier, each carrier will have a list of phones you are required to support, usually about 40 of their better sellers. While this generally includes modern top-of-the-line phones, it also will include some really horrible 4 year old handsets with no features. This has been a big reason for the lack of innovation on the carriers -- it's hard to launch a great new location-aware app if you are required to run it on phones without a GPS, and you can't easily launch a 3D game, since only about 6 or 7 phones will run it, and the other required phones won't.
7)Apple's process puts the onus on the developer to properly test their app, with a minimum of testing on Apple's side. A full test from Apple would cost money, probably hundreds of dollars, and would pretty much eliminate the ability to offer 99 cent apps or free apps. The penalty you pay for insufficient testing is that it may take 3 weeks to get your bug fixes live on the store. Inconvenient, but poetic justice.
8) The Danger Sidekick app store was a real nightmare. Danger prides itself on the fact that nobody submitting an app can get it approved in less than 3 passes. Most of the reasons they turn down apps have to do with how underpowered and buggy the Danger hardware is. Furthermore, in order to sell anything on that store, you have to cut a deal with Danger as well as the carrier offering the device.
So, all said, the reason mobile developers are so excited about iPhone is that for all its faults, the App Store is a breath of fresh air compared to most carrier marketplaces. It's substantially less restrictive than phone carriers or any of the console manufacturers, the cost to get in is minimal, and the process is quite a bit more transparent.
While the process is not perfect, much of the problems people are having are probably attributable to the sheer volume of submissions every week. They are processing thousands of apps during every 40-hour week with a finite staff; the figure I've heard is that the average app gets 6 minutes of review time, which certainly would account for the few flubs they've made.
Considering the hoops Facebook has probably had to jump through for every other phone they support, Hewett just sounds like a whiner. And a web-based Facebook mobile client is even more of a hassle, take it from someone who had to ensure that a major entertainment company's mobile site worked properly on over 500 handsets. If facebook wants to be everywhere, they will pay a price, and the price on the App Store is pretty reasonable.
MrCrowbar
Oct 15, 06:06 PM
That sounds like it makes more sense than Zuneing a song. Instead of somebody asking "do you want to listen to this song" and maybe the person is annoyingly persistent about you listening to it to the point where you want to clock him one for not leaving you alone, the person can look on another person's iPod himself if he so desires and if the other guy has sharing on. If Apple makes iPod sharing exactly the same as iTunes sharing, and figures out a way to keep the battery life up, then that's what people would want to get.
How cool woukd it be to have one of these small programs so you can't only listen to the remote iPod, but download them. That would be a totally new way of pirating music :D
How cool woukd it be to have one of these small programs so you can't only listen to the remote iPod, but download them. That would be a totally new way of pirating music :D
xxBURT0Nxx
May 5, 12:28 AM
initial backup over wifi (required) then future incremental (smaller) backups could be over 3G. the iPhone already tells you when an app is to large to update w/o wifi - it's already been training us about what we can and can't do w/o wifi.
who determines what qualify as future incremental backups? What if I do my initial (required) backup over wifi, then add 5gb of photos? Don't think the wireless carriers are going to go for that.
But that's besides the point... i was referring to apple giving everyone free cloud storage.
As of January this year, over 160 million iDevices have been sold. Consider maybe an average of 20gb per device and apple is looking to give out 3.2 billion GB of cloud storage to it's customers. Something tells me this is not going to happen. You think they want to let everyone back up their 64gb iPod touches to the cloud. You think apple or att/verizon is going to be ok with people backing up their 32gb iPhones to the cloud? No way, not a chance...
who determines what qualify as future incremental backups? What if I do my initial (required) backup over wifi, then add 5gb of photos? Don't think the wireless carriers are going to go for that.
But that's besides the point... i was referring to apple giving everyone free cloud storage.
As of January this year, over 160 million iDevices have been sold. Consider maybe an average of 20gb per device and apple is looking to give out 3.2 billion GB of cloud storage to it's customers. Something tells me this is not going to happen. You think they want to let everyone back up their 64gb iPod touches to the cloud. You think apple or att/verizon is going to be ok with people backing up their 32gb iPhones to the cloud? No way, not a chance...
milo
Aug 10, 06:55 PM
Is it me, or is the internals of the Mac Pro not as sexy as the internals of the PowerMac G5? It just doesn't feel the same.
Maybe it's just me.
Doesn't feel the same at all. The new one is WAY sexier. The G5 was a turd of a kludge. You think that big plastic tumor was sexy?
Maybe it's just me.
Doesn't feel the same at all. The new one is WAY sexier. The G5 was a turd of a kludge. You think that big plastic tumor was sexy?
AndroidfoLife
Apr 15, 02:13 PM
ROFLMAO!
That's as funny as the RIM CEO defending the PlayBook by saying email "really isn't a core element."
http://www.loopinsight.com/2011/04/14/rim-ceo-defends-playbook-says-email-really-isnt-a-core-element/
Also, it's nice to know that us iOS users are unaffected by the latest Flash exploit for Android.
http://macdailynews.com/2011/04/12/adobe-warns-of-major-flash-10-2-exploit-for-android-desktops-ios-users-unaffected/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wordpress%2FxhfA+%28MacDailyNews%29
Not bad for not being the "best" because Windows and Android is better right? :rolleyes:
You are comparing software to hardware. Simply put in terms off hardware mac does not have the best. Neither Google or Microsoft produce their own computers. I think you missed the comment completely
That's as funny as the RIM CEO defending the PlayBook by saying email "really isn't a core element."
http://www.loopinsight.com/2011/04/14/rim-ceo-defends-playbook-says-email-really-isnt-a-core-element/
Also, it's nice to know that us iOS users are unaffected by the latest Flash exploit for Android.
http://macdailynews.com/2011/04/12/adobe-warns-of-major-flash-10-2-exploit-for-android-desktops-ios-users-unaffected/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wordpress%2FxhfA+%28MacDailyNews%29
Not bad for not being the "best" because Windows and Android is better right? :rolleyes:
You are comparing software to hardware. Simply put in terms off hardware mac does not have the best. Neither Google or Microsoft produce their own computers. I think you missed the comment completely
flythe10
Jun 24, 06:47 PM
I'm with Snowcat001 on this one...My daughter has an HP touchscreen and although its kinda cool...after about ten minutes it gets kinda tiring and manipulating the icons..albeit its a WIN 7 box...is frustratingly tough. Now Apples product is in no way comparable to HP (until HP comes out with a WebOS touchpad! ) still think its a long way from disappearing mouse for the desktop. I'm just saying..
seaweeds
Mar 29, 10:57 AM
I feel like the cantankerous old man sitting on his porch and yelling at the neighborhood kids to get off his lawn...Yeah, I'm still rockin' the 3G.
Honestly though, I'm going to wait for iPhone5 (or whatever number/letter combo) regardless of when it comes out because I've had a great experience with iPhone. Come July I'll have had the same phone for 3 years, and yeah, it's getting slow and it can't do some of the same things 3GS and 4 users can, but the bottom line for me is that the phone still does everything that it's done since day-one, and still does it well.
This time around, I'm not going to wait in lines, or some of the more crazy stuff like camp out, but whenever it comes out I'll scoop one up.
I think competition from Droid and other phone OS and hardware producers is a good thing, it means a better product hopefully for everyone. And yeah stats do matter, but I think one aspect of technology that gets undervalued is user experience. I've had a great user experience from iPhone, and that's while I'll buy another.
Honestly though, I'm going to wait for iPhone5 (or whatever number/letter combo) regardless of when it comes out because I've had a great experience with iPhone. Come July I'll have had the same phone for 3 years, and yeah, it's getting slow and it can't do some of the same things 3GS and 4 users can, but the bottom line for me is that the phone still does everything that it's done since day-one, and still does it well.
This time around, I'm not going to wait in lines, or some of the more crazy stuff like camp out, but whenever it comes out I'll scoop one up.
I think competition from Droid and other phone OS and hardware producers is a good thing, it means a better product hopefully for everyone. And yeah stats do matter, but I think one aspect of technology that gets undervalued is user experience. I've had a great user experience from iPhone, and that's while I'll buy another.
SPEEDwithJJ
Oct 26, 01:27 AM
THIS.
I would like to know what it is. :D
EDIT: Sub for the Sound Sticks?
Yep. That is the subwoofer for the Harman Kardon Soundsticks. :)
I would like to know what it is. :D
EDIT: Sub for the Sound Sticks?
Yep. That is the subwoofer for the Harman Kardon Soundsticks. :)
Moyank24
Nov 24, 11:06 AM
I said if my dad ever met John Lennon: that meant that JL is about the only one with musical talent in the Beatles. Try reading a little bit better next time.
And suggesting, or even blatantly stating, that Beatles and Madonna have transcended music more than Bach is about as musically stupid as it comes. Bach not only wrote his own music (Madonna just drops into a studio every now and then), he could also conduct orchestras (the Beatles could do one thing individually; that's why they are called the Fab FOUR), his impact on developing Baroque music is unquestioned and his composition skills and musical knowledge have been admired by the likes of Mozart, Haydn, and Beethoven.
24 must be your musical IQ; get some education before you enter discussions like this.
It's exactly what I'm stating...transcending music means their impact has gone above and beyond music. They had an impact on society. You don't have to be a student of music to know who they are and what they have done. How did Bach transcend music?
You need some education as well. Madonna can play numerous musical instruments (she was a drummer in a band before she hit big) and has written music and lyrics for years. And she can dance! Can Bach dance??
And seriously, nobody is going to take you seriously if you are rude and dismissive. Just because you like classical music doesn't make you smarter than everyone else. Everyone has different tastes. Deal with it.
And suggesting, or even blatantly stating, that Beatles and Madonna have transcended music more than Bach is about as musically stupid as it comes. Bach not only wrote his own music (Madonna just drops into a studio every now and then), he could also conduct orchestras (the Beatles could do one thing individually; that's why they are called the Fab FOUR), his impact on developing Baroque music is unquestioned and his composition skills and musical knowledge have been admired by the likes of Mozart, Haydn, and Beethoven.
24 must be your musical IQ; get some education before you enter discussions like this.
It's exactly what I'm stating...transcending music means their impact has gone above and beyond music. They had an impact on society. You don't have to be a student of music to know who they are and what they have done. How did Bach transcend music?
You need some education as well. Madonna can play numerous musical instruments (she was a drummer in a band before she hit big) and has written music and lyrics for years. And she can dance! Can Bach dance??
And seriously, nobody is going to take you seriously if you are rude and dismissive. Just because you like classical music doesn't make you smarter than everyone else. Everyone has different tastes. Deal with it.
dagaz
Oct 27, 04:04 AM
Think you're imagining it. Have updated my MB and i still can't hear the fan in normal usage. I expect it will kick in at some time when it decides things are getting a bit hot.
I think the original poster was talking about the speaker volume, and I happen to agree - I think my speaker volume is slightly louder.
I think the original poster was talking about the speaker volume, and I happen to agree - I think my speaker volume is slightly louder.
Bonte
Oct 15, 04:38 PM
Yes, it would be rare for two people who hardly know each other to go start sticking icky things into icky parts of each other's bodies :rolleyes: :D
If they both need a Zune to share the music i'm sure both have there own earbuds, the girl or boy can use there own earbuds so there's no body fluids being shared and it works between an iPod and a Zune and all the rest. Wifi sharing is useless.
If they both need a Zune to share the music i'm sure both have there own earbuds, the girl or boy can use there own earbuds so there's no body fluids being shared and it works between an iPod and a Zune and all the rest. Wifi sharing is useless.
AppleScruff1
May 5, 11:28 AM
The world is 3D, so your iPad should be too.
gugy
Sep 4, 12:52 PM
ThinkSecret has had an awful track record the past year or so. Some people here seem to be stuck in the good old days when they were actually a reliable source. Those days are gone. Their sources dried up.
Why would Apple announce their movie store when they don't have a decent video iPod to play them on? What has Apple been working on the past year? Larger capacities? The 5G iPods have not been updated in all this time and yet 80GB drives have been available all along. It just doesn't add up.
very true,
they were good before the lawsuit. Nowadays they just seem to go along all the other rumor sites and actually failing to get the rumors right.
I am sorry for them, I would say that lately they are very close to macosrumors.com in terms of reliability.:eek:
Why would Apple announce their movie store when they don't have a decent video iPod to play them on? What has Apple been working on the past year? Larger capacities? The 5G iPods have not been updated in all this time and yet 80GB drives have been available all along. It just doesn't add up.
very true,
they were good before the lawsuit. Nowadays they just seem to go along all the other rumor sites and actually failing to get the rumors right.
I am sorry for them, I would say that lately they are very close to macosrumors.com in terms of reliability.:eek:
iLias
Sep 4, 08:39 AM
It would be great if they will introduce a 23" iMac with a built in TV-tuner and a revision of Front Row :)
monsterinawc
Aug 4, 10:30 AM
sorry bout the post about the iSight post
my brother in law wanted to try out the forums so i let him use my account
he thinks he know what he talking about when it comes to macs
i just now read what he wrote
my brother in law wanted to try out the forums so i let him use my account
he thinks he know what he talking about when it comes to macs
i just now read what he wrote
6-0 Prolene
Mar 14, 09:39 AM
Sorry to disagree. My local Best Buy, Amazon, and B&H Photo (where I buy my camera equiptment and a good place to buy computers with no tax and Apple Care for a great price) are all fully stocked. This could be the stores knowing the product life cycle and trying to reduce inventories by ordering less and less with each restock.
I could easily see them releasing after the stock is truly depleted so no one needs to discount to move out old inventory which is probably more profitable at the moment. But, I don't know and can't see any reason at this point to hold off introducing a new computer in fear of compromising iPad sales.
Anyway, the complete lack of any tangible rumors for a 'this Tuesday' release is keeping my expectations low. I am placing the odds, based on nothing, at 1:4 for this Tuesday and 4:5 for the next four Tuesdays. If not this Tuesday I may instead buy a refurb imac. Apple told me that I could return it within 30 days (of placing the order) without a restock fee if I exchange for a higher priced item. It looks like a refurb imac 3.3 and a MB might cost about the same as a high end 15" MBP. Anyway, the wait goes on.
There's no way Apple will wait until stock is completely depleted at the discount outlets.
I get the sense that the resellers have been waiting for a while too. MacMall, for instance, let their stock of 17" MBPs dwindle and then restocked this past week. They've also been pushing the end date of their MacBook Pro sale back week after week.
I really think there's been some unforeseen delay, but I think chances are good for 3/16 based on what little info is out there.
I could easily see them releasing after the stock is truly depleted so no one needs to discount to move out old inventory which is probably more profitable at the moment. But, I don't know and can't see any reason at this point to hold off introducing a new computer in fear of compromising iPad sales.
Anyway, the complete lack of any tangible rumors for a 'this Tuesday' release is keeping my expectations low. I am placing the odds, based on nothing, at 1:4 for this Tuesday and 4:5 for the next four Tuesdays. If not this Tuesday I may instead buy a refurb imac. Apple told me that I could return it within 30 days (of placing the order) without a restock fee if I exchange for a higher priced item. It looks like a refurb imac 3.3 and a MB might cost about the same as a high end 15" MBP. Anyway, the wait goes on.
There's no way Apple will wait until stock is completely depleted at the discount outlets.
I get the sense that the resellers have been waiting for a while too. MacMall, for instance, let their stock of 17" MBPs dwindle and then restocked this past week. They've also been pushing the end date of their MacBook Pro sale back week after week.
I really think there's been some unforeseen delay, but I think chances are good for 3/16 based on what little info is out there.
Vantage Point
Mar 14, 08:38 AM
i really think is comming out this tuesday i mean a lot of people are reporting problems of stock in a lot of shops around the world and it doesnt make sense that there is a sudden lack of mbps if there is no update commign soon..
Sorry to disagree. My local Best Buy, Amazon, and B&H Photo (where I buy my camera equiptment and a good place to buy computers with no tax and Apple Care for a great price) are all fully stocked. This could be the stores knowing the product life cycle and trying to reduce inventories by ordering less and less with each restock.
I could easily see them releasing after the stock is truly depleted so no one needs to discount to move out old inventory which is probably more profitable at the moment. But, I don't know and can't see any reason at this point to hold off introducing a new computer in fear of compromising iPad sales.
Anyway, the complete lack of any tangible rumors for a 'this Tuesday' release is keeping my expectations low. I am placing the odds, based on nothing, at 1:4 for this Tuesday and 4:5 for the next four Tuesdays. If not this Tuesday I may instead buy a refurb imac. Apple told me that I could return it within 30 days (of placing the order) without a restock fee if I exchange for a higher priced item. It looks like a refurb imac 3.3 and a MB might cost about the same as a high end 15" MBP. Anyway, the wait goes on.
Sorry to disagree. My local Best Buy, Amazon, and B&H Photo (where I buy my camera equiptment and a good place to buy computers with no tax and Apple Care for a great price) are all fully stocked. This could be the stores knowing the product life cycle and trying to reduce inventories by ordering less and less with each restock.
I could easily see them releasing after the stock is truly depleted so no one needs to discount to move out old inventory which is probably more profitable at the moment. But, I don't know and can't see any reason at this point to hold off introducing a new computer in fear of compromising iPad sales.
Anyway, the complete lack of any tangible rumors for a 'this Tuesday' release is keeping my expectations low. I am placing the odds, based on nothing, at 1:4 for this Tuesday and 4:5 for the next four Tuesdays. If not this Tuesday I may instead buy a refurb imac. Apple told me that I could return it within 30 days (of placing the order) without a restock fee if I exchange for a higher priced item. It looks like a refurb imac 3.3 and a MB might cost about the same as a high end 15" MBP. Anyway, the wait goes on.
Eidorian
May 4, 10:04 PM
3d - the two alphanumeric characters i hate the most.3DPD?
Yes, I had to go there.
Yes, I had to go there.
Hilmi Hamidi
Oct 12, 06:58 PM
It's not actually my setup - I just wanted to drop a link to it, since I believe it blasts most other peoples collections away :)
Then, technically you are using his setup pics without his permission.
The least you should do is put the original poster's name as credit.
Then, technically you are using his setup pics without his permission.
The least you should do is put the original poster's name as credit.
learn
Jan 10, 01:56 PM
Imagine this, if you will. The Beatles 8 gigabyte (or larger) iPod complete with the entire Beatles library. 3.5" touch screen in a yellow case. Is Valentine's Day far away?
nemaslov
Nov 28, 10:13 AM
There's no doubt Apple would pull some kind of neat marketing campaign to announce this deal to the world (assuming it goes through). The people questioning the value of that don't understand how iconic The Beatles are.
Heck, even if not a single person downloads a Beatles track from the iTunes store, the fact that they're finally online, the media exposure that will produce (I've already seen several stories on it in the local news) and the fact that it could lead to things liked branded iPods make it worthwhile to promote in a marketing blitz.
I agree with those that say "Come Together" isn't the right choice. "Revolution" would have been great, but as far as I'm concerned, Nike *owns* that track after their incredible use of it in the 80s (and I'm not a Nike fan!).
I could see them being very coy and using a non-mainstream track such as "Tomorrow Never Knows" or something like that...
They should use the new LOVE mix of Tomorrow Never Knows with Within You Without You. The drumming is so cool and it would attract so much attention since although so many have heard the two separate songs, hearing the Mashup of the two is quite stunning and very modern. You should check it out if you have not yet. Amazing sound. Especially in 5.1
Heck, even if not a single person downloads a Beatles track from the iTunes store, the fact that they're finally online, the media exposure that will produce (I've already seen several stories on it in the local news) and the fact that it could lead to things liked branded iPods make it worthwhile to promote in a marketing blitz.
I agree with those that say "Come Together" isn't the right choice. "Revolution" would have been great, but as far as I'm concerned, Nike *owns* that track after their incredible use of it in the 80s (and I'm not a Nike fan!).
I could see them being very coy and using a non-mainstream track such as "Tomorrow Never Knows" or something like that...
They should use the new LOVE mix of Tomorrow Never Knows with Within You Without You. The drumming is so cool and it would attract so much attention since although so many have heard the two separate songs, hearing the Mashup of the two is quite stunning and very modern. You should check it out if you have not yet. Amazing sound. Especially in 5.1
Pillar
Oct 10, 04:08 PM
Well, I just did it, I used green strip putty (I can't remember the name), looks like this only a pine-green
I mounted it to the back of the desk, worked really well, just take 2 very small (half inch or so) peices and stick it on. It cleans up pretty easily off plastic, just don't try putting it on dry wall or plaster. (Hence, why I put it on the back of the desk, it wont come off very well, but who looks at the back of the desk?)
Alright. I'll go look for that or something similar at Wal-Mart or Target.
Thanks for the tips PowerGamerX
I mounted it to the back of the desk, worked really well, just take 2 very small (half inch or so) peices and stick it on. It cleans up pretty easily off plastic, just don't try putting it on dry wall or plaster. (Hence, why I put it on the back of the desk, it wont come off very well, but who looks at the back of the desk?)
Alright. I'll go look for that or something similar at Wal-Mart or Target.
Thanks for the tips PowerGamerX
vnowarita
Dec 1, 06:32 PM
I love how everybody is like "I've got the CDs who cares" or "Buy the CDs they are cheaper". The Beatles on iTunes isn't for you. It is for people who don't buy CDs, it's for the future when the majority of people get digital music and it's certainly for a whole generation of kids who won't know what a CD is or care, in the same way that vinyl is now seen as archaic.
I'm sure I am repeating someone else's thoughts, but it doesn't seem clear to a lot of people.
The real problem is you are losing the "feel" of those albums from Vinyl.
I'm a Gen Xer and tapes were b and Cd's were the big thing when I was growing up.
I had the luxury of having parents who had a Grundig Majestic Stereo with record player. I own it now. It captures a lot more of the recording than digital ever can.
Case and Point Rolling Stones "Let it Bleed"
No comparison. I love digital music because its easy to store. That's it. Quality goes to Vinyl hands down. I'm just sayin'. Vinyl is not Archaic is all.
I'm sure I am repeating someone else's thoughts, but it doesn't seem clear to a lot of people.
The real problem is you are losing the "feel" of those albums from Vinyl.
I'm a Gen Xer and tapes were b and Cd's were the big thing when I was growing up.
I had the luxury of having parents who had a Grundig Majestic Stereo with record player. I own it now. It captures a lot more of the recording than digital ever can.
Case and Point Rolling Stones "Let it Bleed"
No comparison. I love digital music because its easy to store. That's it. Quality goes to Vinyl hands down. I'm just sayin'. Vinyl is not Archaic is all.
tekmoe
Sep 6, 09:00 AM
this 7300 GT...is this a mobile chip that we might possibly see in the mbp?
