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Nov 23, 04:45 PM
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I thought no one cared...
No kidding. So much for the "everyone already owns all The Beatles songs they want" mantra. ;)
Are you calling those people who bought the iTunes beatles songs stupid?
I thought no one cared...
No kidding. So much for the "everyone already owns all The Beatles songs they want" mantra. ;)
Are you calling those people who bought the iTunes beatles songs stupid?
dontmatter
Sep 13, 02:38 AM
As much as I love them, all of Apple's designs are getting old. The Macbook (nee iBook) has looked the same (minus a few paint jobs) for over 5 years; the current iMac design harkens back to the eMac (yes, I know, its flatter, what an innovation...wheee), which in turn was highly derivative of the original iMac. The MacBook Pro is just an AluPB, which in turn was merely a revision of the original Titanium G4. Now, the "new" iPod nano is nothing more than a iPod mini that went on a diet, and the full iPod, although much sleeker than its predecessors, is still essentially the same design as the iPod that came out in 2001. And the story goes on: the Mac Pro, a warmed over PowerMac G5; the Airport/Airport extreme, essentially unchanged since its release; the Airport Express, a power adapter with flashing lights; the iSight, unchanged since its release; the Mighty Mouse, same design as the Apple Pro Mouse, etc. Essentially, the only new designs in the last three years have been: the Mac mini, the iPod shuffle, and the Cinema Displays, none of which could be considered to be attention-getters. Even the new, unreleased "iTV" is copying the Mac mini design. Not too impressive for a company which claims high design as a main benefit. Where is the new cube? the iMac (& G4)? the tiBook? There is nothing fresh or innovative about their current lineup, nothing exciting or innovative.Instead, its all inoffensively sterile, to my eyes; walking into an Apple store has become similar to walking into IKEA, nothing unexpected, just clean lines. It's like they've become artistically constipated. Or is this just what we get for Apple's new push on "competitive prices"?
In my opinion, its time for some fresh blood, someone with a new vision. And yes, I'm looking squarely at you, Steve and Jonathan. I want to be <i>excited</i> again, and not just by the "guts" of the computer. I, for one, miss the Macworlds of 5 years ago...
Agreed, sadly. My first reaction to the new mini is... I mean nano is... the mini is not old enough to be retro yet! Slipping in an intermediary (the origional nano, which itself was a throwback to the origional ipod) in the line of the shrinking mini does not make it revolutionary, but in fact, makes it not even keep pace with being evolutionary! While I know that many will argue that the reason is that today's designs are perfect, and also that, particularly with laptops, color and texture and corners are the only things you can play with, that's not enough. Apple has, previously, been amazing, shocking us and making us fall in love in one move. But it's been a good long while before we've been shocked at all, and it's hard to stay in love this long.
Remember the recent redesign that has swept across BMW's lineup? The awful trunk on the 5 series, the controversy, the debate? And how tired Mercedes looked in comparison, how bland? But it wasn't a sure thing, the new beamers were risky, right? I, for one, thought that the previous generation was about as close to visually perfect as any car since a dusenberg, and hated the redesign. But.... it's grown on me, and I'm thuroughly fond of the new theme, and the old looks tired to me (in another 15 years it'll look great, no doubt).
That's what apple needs. But now they're like mercedes- beautiful, for sure, but also boring. Same with the OS! They have the capability to pull off risky designs, for sure. They would definately be a BMW rather than a GM if the decided to actually design something. But no, they can't even come up with a '07 toyota camry's worth of design.
So I'm hoping that they've been doing this strategically, to manage their risks a bit while things like the intel switch, introduction of the nano (with, remember, less memory for more money), have been providing as much risk as they can take. The important thing is, now that they're transitioned, and now that they don't have to work to sell ipods, they've got to take those risks, and do that work, or else somebody else will. If your not moving forward, your falling behind.
In my opinion, its time for some fresh blood, someone with a new vision. And yes, I'm looking squarely at you, Steve and Jonathan. I want to be <i>excited</i> again, and not just by the "guts" of the computer. I, for one, miss the Macworlds of 5 years ago...
Agreed, sadly. My first reaction to the new mini is... I mean nano is... the mini is not old enough to be retro yet! Slipping in an intermediary (the origional nano, which itself was a throwback to the origional ipod) in the line of the shrinking mini does not make it revolutionary, but in fact, makes it not even keep pace with being evolutionary! While I know that many will argue that the reason is that today's designs are perfect, and also that, particularly with laptops, color and texture and corners are the only things you can play with, that's not enough. Apple has, previously, been amazing, shocking us and making us fall in love in one move. But it's been a good long while before we've been shocked at all, and it's hard to stay in love this long.
Remember the recent redesign that has swept across BMW's lineup? The awful trunk on the 5 series, the controversy, the debate? And how tired Mercedes looked in comparison, how bland? But it wasn't a sure thing, the new beamers were risky, right? I, for one, thought that the previous generation was about as close to visually perfect as any car since a dusenberg, and hated the redesign. But.... it's grown on me, and I'm thuroughly fond of the new theme, and the old looks tired to me (in another 15 years it'll look great, no doubt).
That's what apple needs. But now they're like mercedes- beautiful, for sure, but also boring. Same with the OS! They have the capability to pull off risky designs, for sure. They would definately be a BMW rather than a GM if the decided to actually design something. But no, they can't even come up with a '07 toyota camry's worth of design.
So I'm hoping that they've been doing this strategically, to manage their risks a bit while things like the intel switch, introduction of the nano (with, remember, less memory for more money), have been providing as much risk as they can take. The important thing is, now that they're transitioned, and now that they don't have to work to sell ipods, they've got to take those risks, and do that work, or else somebody else will. If your not moving forward, your falling behind.
vendettabass
Nov 8, 09:31 AM
what better way to find out about the C2D macbooks, than to find out instore! and actually inform the staff that they've been updated!! they didn't know apparently! well.. so they said, but yeah! was a nice suprise!
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durvivor
Aug 24, 12:37 PM
Inaccurate title it's not the whole laptop only batteries here is the link to apple's website for the recall. http://www.apple.com/support/batteryexchange/faq/
When I go there, it says "These batteries were manufactured by LG Chem, Ltd. of South Korea." Is LG related to Sony? Or, is this a different older recall?
When I go there, it says "These batteries were manufactured by LG Chem, Ltd. of South Korea." Is LG related to Sony? Or, is this a different older recall?
Porchland
Jul 23, 01:26 PM
These white ear budded headphones remind me of the book fahrenheit 451. Soon iPods will now dictate what people read, on top of what people listen to (music, podcasts, audiobook) and what people watch (movies, tv shows).
iPods will rule the world. :eek:
No, that was commercial radio and network television.
The iPod -- and satellite radio, cable, broadband Internet, etc. -- have diversified what people read, watch and listen to. An iPod video player would continue to broaden the availabilities of diverse content.
iPods will rule the world. :eek:
No, that was commercial radio and network television.
The iPod -- and satellite radio, cable, broadband Internet, etc. -- have diversified what people read, watch and listen to. An iPod video player would continue to broaden the availabilities of diverse content.
jaxstate
Aug 29, 09:25 AM
That's the main reason I'm upgrading. I know it will last atleast 4-5 years.
I don't know what people are fussing about. If these price points are true, Windows Vista is pretty cheap.
Remember, if you buy Vista, it'll most likely last at least 4-5 years before the next paid upgrade, unlike with OS X where if you want the latest and greatest, you're looking at an upgrade almost every year.
Vista looks to be a big jump from WinXP too, and seems a lot more mac-like. Complain all you want, but more competition puts Cupertino into a sweat and drives Apple into innovating even more. Support for Direct X 10 is going to be felt in about 1-2 years when people start getting DX10 graphics cards and more games take advantage of it.
I don't know what people are fussing about. If these price points are true, Windows Vista is pretty cheap.
Remember, if you buy Vista, it'll most likely last at least 4-5 years before the next paid upgrade, unlike with OS X where if you want the latest and greatest, you're looking at an upgrade almost every year.
Vista looks to be a big jump from WinXP too, and seems a lot more mac-like. Complain all you want, but more competition puts Cupertino into a sweat and drives Apple into innovating even more. Support for Direct X 10 is going to be felt in about 1-2 years when people start getting DX10 graphics cards and more games take advantage of it.
skellener
Sep 12, 02:08 PM
Odd. 8GB nano and 30GB video iPod = same price. I guess you really pay for "small"!
MacRumors
Apr 1, 11:50 PM
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fmolly
Nov 27, 01:58 PM
Beatles are not my generation so I don't know a lot about them..but weren't they into free spirits and happiness and what not? Why are they all about suing and being greedy now?
Edit: which of them are even alive anymore to profit? Or is this the doing of their heirs?
Half the band are still alive- Ringo and Paul Macartney are still going strong. Maccas never out of the news over here!
Fmolly
Edit: which of them are even alive anymore to profit? Or is this the doing of their heirs?
Half the band are still alive- Ringo and Paul Macartney are still going strong. Maccas never out of the news over here!
Fmolly
Ugg
Sep 12, 02:53 PM
It looks incredible, although the dark grey sliders are sort of hard to see. Very sleek and much less junky than 6. All the features are great if somewhat overdue. I like having movies, music and podcasts all separate.
retroactiv
Mar 28, 06:26 PM
This is a sad, ignorant, white trash comment.
I would agree. I know someone who is a manager there, and they actually treat there employees well, and happen to be one of the ONLY companies expanding in this economy. I might have a cushy desk job now - but I worked in retail before, and won't say anything negative about Walmart.
It doesn't hurt that it's where I also picked up my iPad 2 64g WiFi.... :)
On a side note - the more places that sell iPad the better. Like or not, Apple has went "mainstream consumer" and wants to beat out the "personal computer" with their tablet. They cannot do that only stocking it in Apple stores where people cannot "impulse buy". Steve Jobs said they lost the "PC War", but he didn't tell us about the sneak attack with the iPad. Sure I love my MBP and use it for development and design, but i use the iPad for EVERYTHING else.
I would agree. I know someone who is a manager there, and they actually treat there employees well, and happen to be one of the ONLY companies expanding in this economy. I might have a cushy desk job now - but I worked in retail before, and won't say anything negative about Walmart.
It doesn't hurt that it's where I also picked up my iPad 2 64g WiFi.... :)
On a side note - the more places that sell iPad the better. Like or not, Apple has went "mainstream consumer" and wants to beat out the "personal computer" with their tablet. They cannot do that only stocking it in Apple stores where people cannot "impulse buy". Steve Jobs said they lost the "PC War", but he didn't tell us about the sneak attack with the iPad. Sure I love my MBP and use it for development and design, but i use the iPad for EVERYTHING else.
iliketyla
Mar 28, 08:32 PM
Past upgrades have been very reasonable. Unlike Microsoft that depends on the price to help pay for development, Apple's hardware helps subsidize the OS development. So, it's assumed it will be a very reasonable upgrade price.
Excellent! I'll plan on saving a few bucks then to upgrade.
Thanks for the info.
Excellent! I'll plan on saving a few bucks then to upgrade.
Thanks for the info.
Blue Velvet
Mar 29, 01:28 PM
Tapped digs up the transcript from the second presidential debate:
BROKAW: Senator Obama, let me ask you if -- let's see if we can establish tonight the Obama doctrine and the McCain doctrine for the use of United States combat forces in situations where there's a humanitarian crisis, but it does not affect our national security.
Take the Congo, where 4.5 million people have died since 1998, or take Rwanda in the earlier dreadful days, or Somalia.
What is the Obama doctrine for use of force that the United States would send when we don't have national security issues at stake?
OBAMA: Well, we may not always have national security issues at stake, but we have moral issues at stake.
If we could have intervened effectively in the Holocaust, who among us would say that we had a moral obligation not to go in?
If we could've stopped Rwanda, surely, if we had the ability, that would be something that we would have to strongly consider and act.
So when genocide is happening, when ethnic cleansing is happening somewhere around the world and we stand idly by, that diminishes us.
OBAMA: And so I do believe that we have to consider it as part of our interests, our national interests, in intervening where possible.
But understand that there's a lot of cruelty around the world. We're not going to be able to be everywhere all the time. That's why it's so important for us to be able to work in concert with our allies.
Let's take the example of Darfur just for a moment. Right now there's a peacekeeping force that has been set up and we have African Union troops in Darfur to stop a genocide that has killed hundreds of thousands of people.
We could be providing logistical support, setting up a no-fly zone at relatively little cost to us, but we can only do it if we can help mobilize the international community and lead. And that's what I intend to do when I'm president.
http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/president/debates/transcripts/second-presidential-debate.html
My emphasis. No one can say he's not acting consistently with this statement, made live in front of approx 50-60 million people, just weeks before everyone went to the polls.
BROKAW: Senator Obama, let me ask you if -- let's see if we can establish tonight the Obama doctrine and the McCain doctrine for the use of United States combat forces in situations where there's a humanitarian crisis, but it does not affect our national security.
Take the Congo, where 4.5 million people have died since 1998, or take Rwanda in the earlier dreadful days, or Somalia.
What is the Obama doctrine for use of force that the United States would send when we don't have national security issues at stake?
OBAMA: Well, we may not always have national security issues at stake, but we have moral issues at stake.
If we could have intervened effectively in the Holocaust, who among us would say that we had a moral obligation not to go in?
If we could've stopped Rwanda, surely, if we had the ability, that would be something that we would have to strongly consider and act.
So when genocide is happening, when ethnic cleansing is happening somewhere around the world and we stand idly by, that diminishes us.
OBAMA: And so I do believe that we have to consider it as part of our interests, our national interests, in intervening where possible.
But understand that there's a lot of cruelty around the world. We're not going to be able to be everywhere all the time. That's why it's so important for us to be able to work in concert with our allies.
Let's take the example of Darfur just for a moment. Right now there's a peacekeeping force that has been set up and we have African Union troops in Darfur to stop a genocide that has killed hundreds of thousands of people.
We could be providing logistical support, setting up a no-fly zone at relatively little cost to us, but we can only do it if we can help mobilize the international community and lead. And that's what I intend to do when I'm president.
http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/president/debates/transcripts/second-presidential-debate.html
My emphasis. No one can say he's not acting consistently with this statement, made live in front of approx 50-60 million people, just weeks before everyone went to the polls.
Al Coholic
May 5, 10:39 AM
The article seems to imply that perhaps ATT has already agreed, hence why Apple is negotiating with Verizon at this point.
Oh freakin' joy.
665Mb over AT&T's EDGE network here in Asshat, America will tie up every cell tower within 50 miles and take my iP4 days to update. No thanks - I'll disable it.
Oh freakin' joy.
665Mb over AT&T's EDGE network here in Asshat, America will tie up every cell tower within 50 miles and take my iP4 days to update. No thanks - I'll disable it.
Lgreer
Aug 24, 02:08 PM
Has anyone else noticed that Sony is a horrible, horrible company?
Ridiculous proprietary formats. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony#Proprietary_formats)
Offensive ad campaigns. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony#Advertisements)
Rootkits in their cd's. (http://news.com.com/Sonys+rootkit+fiasco/2009-1029_3-5961248.html)
Blueray outrageous copy protection.
Now exploding batteries?
If I can help it, I will never knowingly buy a Sony product again.
Ridiculous proprietary formats. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony#Proprietary_formats)
Offensive ad campaigns. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony#Advertisements)
Rootkits in their cd's. (http://news.com.com/Sonys+rootkit+fiasco/2009-1029_3-5961248.html)
Blueray outrageous copy protection.
Now exploding batteries?
If I can help it, I will never knowingly buy a Sony product again.
KnightWRX
Mar 29, 05:55 AM
Maybe they will feature the Macbook Air Revision this year ;)
The Macbook Air got an event presentation in Octobre, it's not getting another event spot for what will be a spec bump. It's getting a silent update next.
Mac hardware has not really gotten any keynote time in the last few years. It's mostly been silent updates, even the Mac Mini redesign just showed up one morning.
So these guys pay $1000 to NOT see a keynote??
I'd wager the people paying 1000$ for WWDC don't do it for the keynote (hint, developers going to developer workshops). The keynote is just icing.
The Macbook Air got an event presentation in Octobre, it's not getting another event spot for what will be a spec bump. It's getting a silent update next.
Mac hardware has not really gotten any keynote time in the last few years. It's mostly been silent updates, even the Mac Mini redesign just showed up one morning.
So these guys pay $1000 to NOT see a keynote??
I'd wager the people paying 1000$ for WWDC don't do it for the keynote (hint, developers going to developer workshops). The keynote is just icing.
BC2009
Apr 13, 03:55 PM
If it's shipping in June, even June 30, how can it not be near final form? I mean when a developer tells me s/w is "nowhere near final form" I'm thinking early beta at best. But 2.5 months from release (assume June 30) shouldn't it be in the bug testing phases and everything else locked up?
Coming from a software developer, it is very likely they are doing a concurrent development model whereby they integrate features from different source branches into the main branch one at a time. During this process you periodically "reverse integrate" the main branch into your feature branch to ensure your feature branch is functioning properly. When you complete a feature branch that has the latest main branch features integrated, you test the build within the feature branch, ensure it works, and then integrate into the main branch to make the new feature available to the other feature branches.
If the "missing" features are relatively orthogonal to one another then it is very likely that when this "main branch" was built in February, that testing of the missing features was already well underway on separate builds within each feature branch. However, you don't integrate into the main branch until you believe the feature branch is bug free.
So if they have major other things to integrate into the main release branch, then they should have all at been at about 98% code-completion in the February time frame, but still undergoing quality testing and bug-fix iterations. There is no way they are slapping new things on at the last minute other than fixes to defects they find.
My bet is that the "missing features" are tied to other things they don't want to announce yet because it might reveal some of their strategy in other areas (i.e.: things like integration with iOS 5, cloud services, or iTunes or whatever -- who knows). There is obviously something they are holding back that Apple seems to feel is a big deal.
Coming from a software developer, it is very likely they are doing a concurrent development model whereby they integrate features from different source branches into the main branch one at a time. During this process you periodically "reverse integrate" the main branch into your feature branch to ensure your feature branch is functioning properly. When you complete a feature branch that has the latest main branch features integrated, you test the build within the feature branch, ensure it works, and then integrate into the main branch to make the new feature available to the other feature branches.
If the "missing" features are relatively orthogonal to one another then it is very likely that when this "main branch" was built in February, that testing of the missing features was already well underway on separate builds within each feature branch. However, you don't integrate into the main branch until you believe the feature branch is bug free.
So if they have major other things to integrate into the main release branch, then they should have all at been at about 98% code-completion in the February time frame, but still undergoing quality testing and bug-fix iterations. There is no way they are slapping new things on at the last minute other than fixes to defects they find.
My bet is that the "missing features" are tied to other things they don't want to announce yet because it might reveal some of their strategy in other areas (i.e.: things like integration with iOS 5, cloud services, or iTunes or whatever -- who knows). There is obviously something they are holding back that Apple seems to feel is a big deal.
AlmightyG5
Aug 24, 01:22 PM
My 12" PB falls withing the 3K range (3K514) and wont validate.
The whole number is 3K5148QGR....
I wonder if the 8 makes a difference?
-Mike
Wheres the link to see if I'm affected. The Apple link doesnt work. AAARGGH!
The whole number is 3K5148QGR....
I wonder if the 8 makes a difference?
-Mike
Wheres the link to see if I'm affected. The Apple link doesnt work. AAARGGH!
JackSYi
Jul 22, 10:37 PM
I would definitely want to read it in print form.
suneohair
Sep 6, 09:36 AM
I hope not, the 24" panel is not as good as the 23"
I bet you see a lot of complaints regarding photo editing on the 24" iMac. The screen is way too bright, and you cannot dim it enough for true color reproduction. This is an issue that is well known with the 2407 from dell. I am assuming it is the same panel.
I am sure someone has a 24" S-IPS panel.LGs doesnt say if it is or not.
It would be nice to see Apple make it 24" though, but if the current panels dont permit them to do it at the same quality, I am fine with it staying the same.
I bet you see a lot of complaints regarding photo editing on the 24" iMac. The screen is way too bright, and you cannot dim it enough for true color reproduction. This is an issue that is well known with the 2407 from dell. I am assuming it is the same panel.
I am sure someone has a 24" S-IPS panel.LGs doesnt say if it is or not.
It would be nice to see Apple make it 24" though, but if the current panels dont permit them to do it at the same quality, I am fine with it staying the same.
JereIC
Mar 19, 02:59 AM
As I didn't respond to post #36 back then, allow me to take this opportunity to say, @fragiledreams, HAHAHA!
On point, I still see people on the train to work using iPod Classics quite often. Sure, they look kind of beat up and old (the iPods, not the people) but they haven't been replaced by iPod Touches either, so there's continuing demand for them.
On point, I still see people on the train to work using iPod Classics quite often. Sure, they look kind of beat up and old (the iPods, not the people) but they haven't been replaced by iPod Touches either, so there's continuing demand for them.
AppleScruff1
May 5, 01:55 AM
I'm waiting for the iPad with 4D.
naco
Sep 5, 08:04 PM
And hopefully updated MBP's with C2D.
"hopefully"! im about ready to gouge my freaking eyes out from waiting.:mad: First it was wait for WWDC, then the next Tuesday, then the next, then the next...it just goes on forever! Not to mention all the stuff that is said on here. :eek: yes, i said it. this place is a place for Mac maniacs go to bonkers with rumor this and rumor that. And quite frankly...i love it!:p
"hopefully"! im about ready to gouge my freaking eyes out from waiting.:mad: First it was wait for WWDC, then the next Tuesday, then the next, then the next...it just goes on forever! Not to mention all the stuff that is said on here. :eek: yes, i said it. this place is a place for Mac maniacs go to bonkers with rumor this and rumor that. And quite frankly...i love it!:p
skunk
Apr 8, 01:41 AM
I could type up a bunch of stuff, but this website (http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/triunity.html) does a good job of covering all the bases regarding our difference of opinion on this matter. Here's two quick excerpts:.The link you give contains:
The Hebrew word translated "God" is the word El or Elohim. Elohim is the plural form of El. The plural form is used 2607 of the 2845 times the word "God" is used in the Old Testament. Not only is the word for God usually used in the plural form, but several verses refer to God as "Us":
• Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth." (Genesis 1:26)
• Then the LORD God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; and now, lest he stretch out his hand, and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever"-- (Genesis 3:22)
• "Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language, that they may not understand one another's speech." (Genesis 11:7)
• Then I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, "Whom shall I send, and who will go for Us?" Then I said, "Here am I. Send me!" (Isaiah 6:8)
An example of how the Hebrew word Elohim is used in the plural is that it is translated "gods" (referring to idols) 235 times in the Old Testament. It is exactly the same word that is translated "God," referring to the Almighty. An example is given below:
"I am the LORD your God [Elohim], who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. "You shall have no other gods [Elohim] before Me. (Exodus 20:2-3)This seems far more likely to be referring to a literal plurality of gods than some revisionist gestalt. Occam's Razor would come down on the side of plain old-fashioned polytheism every single time.
As for this:
Finally, there are a number of verses in the Old Testament in which the triunity of God is directly expressed:
• Who has ascended into heaven and descended? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has wrapped the waters in His garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His name or His Son's name? Surely you know! (Proverbs 30:4)Yes, we do know his son's name: it was Baal. Every Canaanite knew that.
The Hebrew word translated "God" is the word El or Elohim. Elohim is the plural form of El. The plural form is used 2607 of the 2845 times the word "God" is used in the Old Testament. Not only is the word for God usually used in the plural form, but several verses refer to God as "Us":
• Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth." (Genesis 1:26)
• Then the LORD God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; and now, lest he stretch out his hand, and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever"-- (Genesis 3:22)
• "Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language, that they may not understand one another's speech." (Genesis 11:7)
• Then I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, "Whom shall I send, and who will go for Us?" Then I said, "Here am I. Send me!" (Isaiah 6:8)
An example of how the Hebrew word Elohim is used in the plural is that it is translated "gods" (referring to idols) 235 times in the Old Testament. It is exactly the same word that is translated "God," referring to the Almighty. An example is given below:
"I am the LORD your God [Elohim], who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. "You shall have no other gods [Elohim] before Me. (Exodus 20:2-3)This seems far more likely to be referring to a literal plurality of gods than some revisionist gestalt. Occam's Razor would come down on the side of plain old-fashioned polytheism every single time.
As for this:
Finally, there are a number of verses in the Old Testament in which the triunity of God is directly expressed:
• Who has ascended into heaven and descended? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has wrapped the waters in His garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His name or His Son's name? Surely you know! (Proverbs 30:4)Yes, we do know his son's name: it was Baal. Every Canaanite knew that.
